Identity: Are there any South Africans?

The Foundation’s liveliest roundtable to date was held at the Johannesburg Country Club, 10 March 2010. The varied panel comprising Antjie Krog (Begging to be Black), Eusebius McKaiser (columnist and blogger), William Gumede (political analyst) and Ivor Chipkin (Do South African’s Exist?) provided provocative, contrasting and stimulating presentations.

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The Foundation’s liveliest roundtable to date was held at the Johannesburg Country Club, 10 March 2010. The varied panel comprising Antjie Krog (Begging to be Black), Eusebius McKaiser (columnist and blogger), William Gumede (political analyst) and Ivor Chipkin (Do South African’s Exist?) provided provocative, contrasting and stimulating presentations.

Francis Antonie, the Director of the Helen Suzman Foundation, and Chair for the evening’s proceedings introduced the panelists and set the tone for the evening by referring to Identity as a fluid and layered phenomenon.

Antjie Krog opened for the panelists by stating that she does not care about identity, what matters to her is to live her life as a moral person. She went on to share an emotionally charged view point from her work ‘Begging to be Black’. She spoke of her struggle find a fit in the post 1994 South Africa and her uncertainty about how to enter the new debates, not as an Afrikaner, but as a South African. She quoted from a book called African Ethics: An anthology of comparative and applied ethics edited by Munyaradzi Felix Murove which asks one to consider a system which focuses on consensus decision-making in a search for unanimous agreement. She highlighted the profound implications consensus decision-making would have for opposition politics. She also questioned the constant labeling of the government and of government officers as corrupt, and the potential implications of these labels as identifiers of their own.


Eusebius McKaiser followed with his presentation: ‘There are no South Africans and that’s ok’. He elaborated on his opening statement by highlighting why he felt the concept of a common national identity, or South African essence, is, as he put it, incoherent and dangerous, and susceptible to many ills. A common identity is either likely to be so broad that it will allow non-South Africans to fall into the definition, or it will be too narrow, and thus exclusive, he said.  Even the idea of defining subgroups by culture or race, he felt would prove difficult, as the danger here would be being too prescriptive. 


He proposed an alternative to the (dangerous) concept of a common national identity. This would entail a uniting around a complete/national/united understanding of liberal constitutional democracy based on a constitutional vision: giving people the maximum space possible to self identify, without harming others.


His final question dealt with why South Africans are anxious about having a national identity and why national identity is unnecessary. He spoke of the benefit of difference and emphasised the importance of cross cultural dialogue where difference would form the basis for rich relationships. He concluded by highlighting the common characteristics needed to enable sustainable democracy, namely a respect for each other’s rights to speak, as well as respect for rights and values which make debate possible.

Third panelist, Ivor Chipkin, began with an allegory which humorously highlighted our perceived need to label people we meet according to a specific identity. He followed by reading an extract from an essay by Nat Nakasa which told a story of two people, from different racial and ideological backgrounds, finding a common identity based on similar interests. He questioned what produces subjection to an identity and under what conditions, we, as South Africans could be liberated from the oppressive identities which hold us. He also questioned Steve Biko’s notion of authentic Africanism and cautioned against setting essentialist characteristics to gain access to particular identities.

 







 


 

 

Final panelist, William Gumede, began by stating that he did not think that there was a simple answer to the question: What is a South African?

He also cautioned against getting carried away in trying to find simple answers to the question. He mentioned the danger that as citizens, we might resort to ‘laager’ type identities in order to seek refuge in uncertain times created by political, economic and social crises. He observed that at the most basic level, if you live in South Africa, you are South African and therefore, in the context of such a diverse society, identity is actually a political construct. He recognised that as a nation we needed to look at characteristics of commonality, other than culture and skin colour, that can unite us. His suggestion was to move away from uniting around superficial forms like World Cup sporting events and to instead look at the institutions that hold our society together. This he explained would mean that rallying around the Constitution could be a pragmatic way to define South Africanness and unite the country.


The debate continued with comments from the panelists and the audience:
♦  if there was a pill that would turn people black if taken, how many people would take it?
♦  it is a question of solidarity not just identity: on what conditions do we develop bonds of solidarity?
♦  we overcome our past by the glue of social justice--
♦  you can’t change some facts about your upbringing that influence you, but as an adult, you can choose how you react to other communities
♦  you form an identity by things that happen to you
♦  we need more black narratives to stop being blocked into frameworks
♦I am a brown woman

Comments and questions from the audience reinforced the Chair’s opening remarks as participants grappled with society assigned and even self assigned identity labels. More questions were posed, than answers offered but one left the event with a sense that debates of this nature are essential for the deepening of our democratic understanding. The discussions resonated with Eusebius McKaiser’s observation that cross cultural debate could be a starting point in paving the way for rich relationships.

A fuller, verbatim report from this event is coming soon.

If you’re interested in continuing the debate, please send us your comments and questions and we’ll publish them on the website, Twitter and Facebook. Alternatively, go straight to Twitter and Facebook to post your comments. We have started a discussion on Facebook entitled Are there any South Africans? Please note that racism, hate speech and ad hominem attacks will not be tolerated.
 

The debate continued.....

Eusebius Mckaiser    Why there are no South Africans and its OK

Robert Stone            Black racism not valid         

Louis Volschenk        A real freedom fighter

Steuart Pennington    Actually there are South Africans

Eusebius McKaiser     More South Africans

Mayihlome Tshwete   Pleasurable letter












 

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